Friday, September 16, 2005

Dear World at Large,

I would like to take a moment to request a change of title, for I no longer wish to be referred to as a Christian or be associated with Christianity for the following reasons. I feel like I need to explain why I wish to unassociated myself with this category. I wish to leave religion because of the definition Christianity holds in the mind of your people as follows.

1. Greedy Right Wing Republicans

These are the self-proclaimed “Christians” that focus their whole existence on two issues (homosexuality and abortion). Both of which Jesus never specifically mentioned while the one issue (the poor) Jesus mentioned more times in his life than anything, goes on the backburner. Our “Christian” leaders have let the poor go without aid or food while giving the countries richest 1% a large tax break. But some of you world go on to believe in these politicians because they can speak “Christianeze” and you disregard what Jesus said about a person being known by their fruit.

It is my belief that if I am to follow Jesus, the poor, the downcast and those you do not judge as important would be my biggest concern and at the heart of my thoughts and prayers. I would not spend my time hating homosexual people, many of which Jesus would likely be hanging out with or hating Planned Parenthood who are doing what followers of Jesus should be doing which is loving teenage girls who have made a mistake and desperately NEED help.

It is also under my suspicion that the environment and the earth are unimportant in your definition of Christianity and that is also not want I want to involve myself in. The Earth is God’s creation and while it is there for us to use, it is also for us to take care of and part of the responsibility given to us by God in the very creation process.

2. An Unhealthy View of Salvation

I’m not speaking of the actual salvation that Christ gives, but I’m talking about the response to salvation or rather, how “Christianity” teaches one to “work out their salvation.” It tends to start with separating yourself from all things unholy (including friends) so you can shelter yourself from evil influences and grow strong enough to be able to invade the world as you grow stronger, this time being a missionary. Unfortunately by the time this “strengthening process” is over you have no connection back into the outside world because your friends are gone, your music sucks and you have no hobbies that doesn’t include praying after you are done. I’ve always wondered why you would pray after a poker game anyway. You have long abandoned the places Jesus would have hung out and instead have monopolized coffee shops all across the country. How did coffee become the Christian beer and the coffee shop become the Christian bar? And no, for the last time I don’t want to host another Church Coffee House night.

3. An Embarrassing Eschatology

I’m not going to pretend that there has not been some good come out of the Left Behind Series or the ministry Tim Lahaye has done in the sense of people being introduced to Christ for that I rejoice. But I am also not going to pretend to have not seen the damage done in the name of Christ by this series either which includes:

--an escapist mentality such as, “Don’t worry about bettering the world because it’s all going to come to an end soon anyway. Then we’ll be lifted up into heaven on a cloud and everyone else can just go to hell. So let’s just sit back in our church and wait it out.

--a literal interpretation taken straight from apocalyptic (symbolic) literature. After all of my study of eschatology and apocalyptic literature I still have never figured out why you would interpret a symbolic book rich with numbers, symbols, colors and all kinds of figurative dream language literally! My only guess is because fear trumps hope in the sales realm. Media has had so much success capitalizing on people’s fear that it only makes sense for the “Christian” world to jump on the fear train and ride it out. I won’t even begin with those on TBN for whom God has probably had to change his end times plan just because He would be embarrassed if these men got something right on account of their ridiculous demeanor.

4. Cheesy Attractional Churches:

I don’t want to be a part of your church because your music is “cool” or your teaching is “relevant”. No matter how hard you try, your music is going to be sub par to what I’m listening to so please don’t pretend that it is the same quality. And don’t try to wow me by playing the cover of the newest rock song on the radio.

There is a difference between relevant teaching done in a scriptural way and scriptural teaching done in a relevant way. I do not need any more relevant teaching. I know how to balance my checkbook and I know how to have sex. I need something that transcends my regular life, not an escape but a dose of the reality Jesus said he came here to bring.
I need something that is living and breathing that can get inside of me and rattle my world. Sometimes I think I could go to church for a year and at the end I feel like I still would not know God

I do not wish to receive any more of your clever marketing trying to convince me that I’ll love the music and have free gourmet coffee. I can listen to good music and have good coffee anytime I want. I desperately need to experience God. I need something that I can’t find apart from a community of faith.

In closing, these are some of the things I do not want to be related to in any way. And therefore I renounce your version of Christianity. I no longer want to be known as a Christian, Religious or a Church Goer so I would appreciate you making the correct adjustments in further proceedings with me.

From this point on I would like you to address me as a follower, disciple, learner, student, adventurer, or companion of Jesus Christ. Thank you for making the correct changes.

a follower,

Dustin Bagby

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

so are you not going to the stryper concert with me tonight??

Anonymous said...

Dustin,

You essentially conveyed all of my primary grievances with the mainstream church, "Christianity" in general, and the mindless allegiance to the right-wing political religiosity in this country. I am so sick and tired of pharisaical Christianity and all of its ugly byproducts. (Although I love me some Testamints)It's really difficult not to become so cynical and averse to anything "religious" by mere association that I find it a chore to even approach that aspect of my life on a regular basis. Anyway, want to start a church? I play guitar and can cover Coldplay songs. Whaddya think?

g13 said...

dustin,

thanks for this well-written, passionate post. i agree with your arguments and share your cynicism. however, i think that subversion, not separation, is the best response to evangelicalism.

let's continue to break down the salvation equation and replace them with a call to holistic kingdom living. it is my prayer that we can do this within and without evangelical culture.

i hope that you do not hear this as an accusation. it's just a reflection that i am afraid to post.

peace of Christ.

Anonymous said...

Dear Follower,

Dude, so you should totally check out this church that launched in New York City this weekend. Their coffee was AWESOME and their literature was waaay cool. The only thing that sucked was their worship leader- some Mexican or Colombian guy or something. Tried to play a Green Day song. He was no good. Besides that I think it will be THE place to be. The only think missing is that comedian guy that used to do the Song Trivia a few months ago.
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Hey man! Hope all is going well for you down in Florida. I always enjoy reding your blog...It's great to see what happens to people in the after they read Dante's Inferno!

Camilo

Anonymous said...

nice. this post could be the best one yet. are you trying to tell me that the Bible isn't an "owners manual for living" or a self help book? that it really might be a book filled with ancient mysteries buried deep? that the cup of our Lord is more than just a frothy cold one we imbibe after a hard day of sinning?

I'm with you. I love Christ but I hate christianity.

Anonymous said...

"I know how to balance my checkbook and I know how to have sex."

Hey, does your nickname "The-30-Second-King" have anything to do with this?

Adam said...

I hear you on the Left Behind stuff. My students hold on to that theology and I am trying to beat out of them.

It seems a lot of your points come from media and images. I hate Hollywood and I hate Christians trying to match it. Good post, you can buy one of my t-shirt by going to the website www... just kidding. (You know that freakin blog spam) yeah..

Dustin said...

thanks for the thoughts and I have to say that I am surprised to get so many jokes!

anyway, i wanted to add one thought because i know some people have read this and thought it was an attack on their church personally and I really did not have one church in mind while writing this. I was more responding to the postcards that I have received in the mail from new churches in our area since I have moved to Tampa. Churches that have promised great music and great coffee, both of which i love, but also both of which i could get anywhere. So please don't take offense to this or think i am ripping on your church.

obviously i am trying to work through some stuff, not just to rip on "cultural Christianity" which i'm obviously not a fan of but I also want to be constructive and figure out (along with several thousand others) what following Jesus means in today's world and cultural regardless of what you want to call it (post-Christian, post-congregational, etc.)

Anonymous said...

Hey dude,

I was just playing with you if you're referring partly to my comments above-No offense taken at all- personally or otherwise. I was laughing my ass off, mostly. I enjoy reading your blog & love your questioning & challenging things. It's not only healthy...its needed!

Camilo

So...what's this about "The 30 second King"? He he.

Dustin said...

hey camilo,

i just didn't want to offend anyone because it's not really about "doing cover songs" or good coffee, it's about that being the only form of outreach. So obviously i understand that Forefront is not about that. I guess one thing i'm starting to realize is that you can be missional and still have some attractional elements. it seems like everyone is making the argument of "missional vs. attractional." i don't think the two have to be complete enemies. What do you think?

Dustin said...

about the 30 second king thing, i'm not sure but i'm guessing it is a sexual reference for me the rookie. anyway, if you want to know about my longevity you will have to ask Kelli. I'm not really timing. I see the finish line and i cross it.

Anonymous said...

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g13 said...

ask kelli. um, yeah, we'll get right on that.

in all seriousness. i'm really glad that you two have each other. i think you're such an incredible match.

Tyler said...

Dustin, good post. It mirrors a lot of my recent thoughts on Christianity.

Anonymous said...

Christians

By Maya Angelou



When I say... "I am a Christian"

I'm not shouting "I'm clean livin'."

I'm whispering "I was lost,

Now I'm found and forgiven."



When I say... "I am a Christian"

I don't speak of this with pride.

I'm confessing that I stumble

and need Christ to be my guide.



When I say... "I am a Christian"

I'm not trying to be strong.

I'm professing that I'm weak

And need His strength to carry on.



When I say... "I am a Christian"

I'm not bragging of success.

I'm admitting I have failed

And need God to clean my mess.



When I say... "I am a Christian"

I'm not claiming to be perfect,

My flaws are far too visible

But, God believes I am worth it.



When I say... "I am a Christian"

I still feel the sting of pain.

I have my share of heartaches

So I call upon His name.



When I say... "I am a Christian"

I'm not holier than thou,

I'm just a simple sinner

Who received God's good grace, somehow!

Agent B said...

Good stuff. Great post.

DJ Word said...

with you in mind, body and spirit, if not timing.

Anonymous said...

I think the post was good too. My concern, however, lies more with the new believers. I also desire more deep scriptual teaching and not so much "this is how to". But I see where that connects new comers ya know. And I'm sure you see that too. I just find it hard to say "I love Christ but I hate Christianity." Too often Christians (or those who love Christ) tend to be over critical of and hate the church, his bride. But I appreciate good thinkers and open minds. Thank you for sharing your great insights!

Michael said...

You moved to Tampa?

Michael said...

You'll be glad to know that my pastor and I have started up a theology pub in Orangeville and we meet every Thursday at 7:30. You're invited.

I'm going to bring this post next time I go.